Chicago Deep Dish: Pizza or Casserole? || Really Dough?

Published on 2/11/2019 by Thrillist
It’s one of the oldest debates. Is Chicago deep dish really a pizza? Some call it a casserole, other’s an abomination. Jon Stewart once attacked the pizza on national television claiming, "This is tomato soup in a bread bowl. This is an above ground marinara swimming pool for rats." So on this episode of Really Dough? Scott and Mark are tackling the great debate with a classic Chicago deep dish pie from Emmett’s in Manhattan. Will Mark call it a pizza? Will Mark kick Scott out?

Pizza is one of the most customizable foods in history. Tomato sauce, white sauce, artichoke cream sauce, broccoli, M&M’s, pineapple, edible 24K gold -- a pizza can be anything your heart desires. But should it? Renowned pizza nerd Scott Wiener is challenging the idea that pizza can be anything. He’s traveling all over America, spotlighting these Frankenstein pizzas and trying to make a case for whether these new customizations can, in fact, still be considered a pizza. In the end, Wiener takes these pizzas to Lucali to pass final judgment from the purist of all pizza purists, Mark Iacono, where he will either declare each slice “PIZZA!” or ask with complete disgust, “Really, dough???”


Hosts Scott Wiener Mark Iacono

Guest Emmett Burke

Showrunner Keith Cecere

Senior Producer Chas Truslow

Producer Phoebe Melnick

Director of Photography Vwodek Rucewicz

Camera Operator Kevin Provost

Assistant Camera Lucas Young

Production Audio Nathan Bonetto

Gaffer Manny Ramos

Senior Editor Chris “The Editor” Murphy

Associate Editor Ede Bell Crowder

Colorist Thom McKenna

Post Audio Aldon Baker

Animators Fredy Delgado, Megan Chong

Production Coordinator Roshanna Charner, Myra Rivera

Production Assistants Nick Hernandez, Trask Grant, Mickey Lynch, Jason Pozarowski

Line Producer Emily Tufaro

Director of Development Leo Fernandez

Post-Production Supervisor Daniel Byrne

Supervising Producer Stasia Tomlinson

Design Director Ted McGrath

Executive Producer Justin Lundstrom


Track Title: Hard Headed Bastards (Intro) Composer: Gabriel R Shadid (BMI 50%), Alexander Wolfgang Pfeffer (BMI 50%) 00:11:28

Track Title: Hark! The Herald Angels Sing (c) Composer: Felix J L Mendelssohn Bartholdy (DP 0%), Charles Wesley (DP 0%), Geoffrey Peter Gascoyne (PRS 100%), William Hayman Cummings (DP 0%), George Whitefield (DP 0%) 00:51:10 01:14:27 01:45:00

Track Title: Chicago Club Composer: Christopher James Goulstone (PRS 100%) 02:34:18

Track Title: Baseball Charge Composer: Jim Wolfe (ASCAP 100%) 01:59:18

Track Title: Saccio Na Bella Canzone Composer: Antonio Paliotti (SIAE 100%) 03:15:09 03:33:28

Track Title: Tick The Box B Composer: Mitch Dalton (PRS 50%), John Charles Fiddy (GEMA 50%) 04:52:28

Track Title: Take Me Out to The Ballgame Composer: E’s Jammy Jams 03:55:13 04:26:27

Track Title: Chicago Composer: Bruno Luc Pilloix (SACEM 50%), Lionel Wendling (SACEM 50%) 05:14:01

Track Title: Touch Control Composer: Curtis Frederick Schwartz (PRS 100%) 05:34:13

Track Title: Spy Out Composer: Klooz (SACEM 50%), Kidedo (SACEM 50%) 05:49:17

Track Title: I Always Leave Part of My Heart in Chicago - Underscore Composer: Erin Rosacker (ASCAP 100%) 06:10:17

Track Title: Hard Time (Underscore Version) Composer: Peter Jeremias (BMI 100%) 06:38:04 06:59:02

Track Title: Decision Time (a) Composer: Austin Carey Fray (BMI 50%), Skip Armstrong (ASCAP 50%) 08:24:03

Track Title: Forge Ahead Composer: Sam Spence (BMI 100%) 09:12:00

Track Title: Simply Composer: Pasquale Castiglione (SIAE 100%) 09:33:12 09:48:09

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